Posts by John Aquila

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i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.

John Aquila

tim3l0rd Thanks for that info. So I guess the 30-40s are like split in half. Those that embrace the internet are waking up and those that don't are going into a deeper sleep.

The difference with these older ones that I met with is they don't embrace the internet. They don't follow the WT because of broken promises and the drastic changes. That's why they don't view themselves as apostates. And they still believe in the paradise earth and the Bible. They have not exposed themselves to criticisms of the Bible.

It's interesting how this input from everyone is helping us group those still in the Borg. It gives us something to work with to help some of them wake up.

ThinkerBelle 5 minutes ago
I'm in the 30-40 range, but I can't say that I ever really questioned anything until now

Interesting, so this age seems to be the cut-off point of putting up with all the foolishness of the WT doctrine. From 30 down, very few are staying. To much information on the internet.

137

Something interesting!

by John Aquila in

i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.

John Aquila

Simon
It's amazing there aren't more given the scale and frequency of their doctrinal changes

Maybe there is and we aren't aware. Last week I would have never imagine there was a group like this. It's was kind of weird for me to be their because they are not JWs and they are not apostates. So what are they?

But I agree, the environment is not conducive anymore to start some other religion. Although from what they told me, that is not their intention. They meet only a few times a year to encourage one another to keep the faith in God and his promise of a New World. Plus they are to old to really do anything in an organized manner. Their basically done.

WHATSGOINGON
I wish that my mum and dad and some of the older ones that have passed away were here to see the changes -

Maybe it's better they didn't. Learning ttatt is heartbreaking. This way they passed away in Peace.

Thanks for the link Vidiot!

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Something interesting!

by John Aquila in

i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.

John Aquila

OrphanCrow - that's a lot of splinter groups.

So this is nothing new. The only problem with this group that I went to is that they will all be gone in the next 20 years. The youngest couple was 65 years old and some of the older one were in their late 80s.

I don't think young ones are forming any splinter groups.

Once the old remnants of the WT organization are GONE, then that will be the day when the WT will close its doors and open a NEW Religious organization. One that has nothing to do with 1914, blood, Last days.

Watchtower will finally be gone!

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Something interesting!

by John Aquila in

i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.

John Aquila

The facebook generation moto, "if you don't like someone, just unfriend them." As simple as that!

LOL! You know, you hit it smack on the nail. It all makes sense now about the young ones I see. I couldn't figure it out till now that you said that. They really don't care. Most of them couldn't care less about being elders or Ministerial Servants. They want a life and nothing and no one is going to stop them.

You always learn something on this board.

BTW what about the 30s-40s jws. They are not facebook generation but at the same time they are not the 60s and up who gave up their life. They are like in limbo? What do you think about them?

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Something interesting!

by John Aquila in

i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.

John Aquila

Randall Waters predicted this years ago.

Vidiot, by any chance do you have a link? I would like to read more about this phenomenon.

I think if I hadn't woken up, I might have been one of these people. I'm almost sure of it.

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Something interesting!

by John Aquila in

i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.

John Aquila

Cool. Any idea what they think about shunning / blood?

I didn't ask about that, I was having a hard time soaking what I was seeing.

Their free, but still a slave, explain that to me

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Something interesting!

by John Aquila in

i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.

John Aquila

Warwickslave

I'm in that age group but what's kind of weird, is I left just before the changes started taking place. Which i believe helped me from going bonkers. These guys are not apostates, so in a sense they are still stuck but at the same time they are free-- if that makes any sense.

No web address Vanderhoven7

It confirms that the older you get having lived all your life in the hopes of the big A you must start having doubts about the company you've been working for all your life

If you been around the WT as long as I have, and have given your all to believing the end was coming in your generation, then they change it, you can't help but have doubts, it's only human. If you don't have doubts, it's because your not normal. Something is missing, like a screw or two, in the old nogger.

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Something interesting!

by John Aquila in

i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.

John Aquila

The skeptic in me says, "That's interesting. I'd like to know more."

Yea, me to. I never would have imagine things like this taking place. Not in my wildest dreams. I was suppose to be in "God's Only True Organization" And now look at what's happening. It can really drive a person crazy if he thinks to much of it.

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Something interesting!

by John Aquila in

i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.

John Aquila

Please find out where they meet in Texas. I am curious as to who I may find there.

I did ask if I could go to the next meeting, he said sure. The thing is they only meet about 3 times a year. I guess this is just starting to take off. But I will ask next time what cities in Texas.

What's interesting is that they are very leary of anyone under a certain age, I'm thinking 60s. That's why I believe this thing is something brand new.

137

Something interesting!

by John Aquila in

i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.

John Aquila

I was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend. We both served as elders for years. He is in his late 70s. I will skip the details about how I was invited but interestingly the invitation was to me and me alone. I was told I could not invite anyone myself.

To my surprised, a group of about 100-150--???--- brothers and sisters rent a building and meet every few months. The youngest couple is 65 years old. These are all former elders, former regular pioneers, who are no longer serving. They have all stepped down. They are from all over the city, English congregations only. There was food and drink and association for about 4 hours. After a couple of hours one of the brothers got up and gave a little talk of encouragement.

Are you wondering what this is all about? Believe me, I was very curious what was going on. I will give you a brief rundown on what I observed. Afterwards I asked questions and it just confirmed what the brother said from the platform.

This group of JWs still believe that God is at some point going to intervene into man’s affairs. When—they are not sure. That’s the only thing they have in common with the Watchtower.

They don’t buy into the overlapping generation explanation anymore. They don’t approve of the JW TV. They think they have become part of the TV evangelical –Babylon the Great. They believe the Cart witnessing is a cowardly way of preaching God’s Kingdom.

They think the WT has lost focus on God’s will and it being caught in Satan’s greedy commercialism. They don’t go out in service anymore because they feel it is wrong to focus and preach JW.Org instead of announcing God’s Kingdom. Also they are not sure if this period is the last days.

They don’t support any of the financial projects that beg for more money. They still read the WT magazine but pick and choose articles they read. They download the magazines instead of ordering them through the congregation because they only attend the Sunday meetings once every couple of months just to see what is going on.

They don’t read apostate stuff.

There is no one under 65 years old. These are JWs who don’t believe the WT is being used by Jehovah anymore but still believe that there is gong to be divine intervention.

The brother speaking from the platform said they have been in contact with other groups of JWs like them in Phoenix Arizona, Albuquerque N.M. and different cities in Texas.

I believe the WT is starting to fragment from the inside just like the Bible Students did what Judge Rutherford took over after Charles T. Russell’s death.

They are not WT members anymore

And they are not Apostates.

There are something new.